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Dec. 2nd, 2002 01:42 pm
Amid rising debate - inspired by the UK Government and legal authorities - about what are suitable terms for minority sexual groups, here as a special public service is a one-stop primer clarifying what words are in and out about being in or out.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2527419.stm

awwww!

From: atommickbrane
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 05:52 am (Link)
No more pederasts? :(

*stomps foot*
From: dennyd
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 06:08 am (Link)
gay writer Philip Hensher says young people now use "gay" to mean "hopelessly naff"

Thankyou, South Park, for that one...

Words do change their meanings

From: emomisy
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 02:28 pm (Link)
Gay previously had nothing to do with sexuality, many people still bemoan that.
and ISTR Gay meaning "hopelessly naff" before South Park at my school...

Re: Words do change their meanings

From: dennyd
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 03:43 pm (Link)
Really? That's interesting, I was almost sure it was SP that started that one off. It's kind of insulting, anyway, whoever it was...

Mind you, I use 'trendy' to mean much the same thing... I suppose the more, erm, advertising-aware members of society might object to that.  :)
From: wechsler
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 06:13 am (Link)
Reader Michael adds: There is already a word... homogeneous. Comes from 'homo' and 'gender'. No mention of sex or sexual.

I wonder what he thinks homogenised milk is?
From: dennyd
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 06:29 am (Link)
Do you think he drinks more or less of it because of this?  :)
From: valkyriekaren
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 01:06 pm (Link)
I just posted a comment to this extent on the webpage. I hope it gets printed. I also mentioned the importance of including the gay/lesbian/transsexual community in deciding which terms are and are not offensive or belittling.
From: feanelwa
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 08:44 am (Link)
"lesbian, as every schoolboy knows, "lesbian" owes its derivations to the Greek poet Sappho, who lived on the island of Lesbos. Still a perfectly acceptable term, even according to the government."

Yes, of course, while you're writing an article about not offending gay people, go ahead and imply that lesbians exist merely as a turn-on for immature men. We don't mind, really. ~contemplates murder~

From: wechsler
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 09:00 am (Link)
That's a bit of a conceptual leap from the mention of schoolboy history lessons...
From: feanelwa
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 11:38 am (Link)
I thought they meant every schoolboy knew because they went straight to that bit in the history books instead of listening to the teacher. We certainly never got taught about Sappho and the Greeks. Except for that the Romans used to trade pottery with them.

It is silly

From: emomisy
Date: December 2nd, 2002 - 02:33 pm (Link)
Homosexual is a perfectly good word for a person who is soley attracted to people of the same sex. Like any word it can be used as an insult.
This is political correctness /again/ really. *sighs*

I don't know, perhaps Gay, Bi, whatever, people should just have the same rights, therefore denying any need for differentiating them, and thereby avoiding the use of any term to describe them.

Hmmmmm. I really should read more Foucault...