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Streaming Video Jun. 24th, 2003 10:29 am
Is anyone familiar with this from the provision side?
Does anyone use this to view video online? What sites and file formats do you use?

Ta.

From: babysimon
Date: June 24th, 2003 - 03:52 am (Link)
I've very slightly dabbled in this. You have three choices: RealVideo, Windows Media Player, Quicktime. The first two are full of evil but have a higher installed base. To do a good job, you should encode in at least two of the options. For Real and WMP you should probably provide seperate narrow and broadband versions - Quicktime is smart enough to pick depending on the available bandwidth, although you may still need to encode seperately, can't remember.

Basically the whole situation is depressing. There's nothing even close to open *or* standard out there, and I suspect it's because all the big companies would rather fuck the marketplace up in a futile attempt to "own" the concept of video playing, rather than co-operate. CF instant messaging, contrast still images on the web and email.

Ta...

From: wechsler
Date: June 24th, 2003 - 04:00 am (Link)
Do you need any special server software, or can you just serve from Apache?
Any special requirements on how you refer to the clips in the HTML (embedded objects, links?) or weird and wacky content-types?

Re: Ta...

From: babysimon
Date: June 24th, 2003 - 06:47 am (Link)
Quicktime can definitely be streamed from Apache - I've done it[1].
I have a feeling Real can't (they have an expensive server "solution" so I would expect them to require you use it).
Dunno about WMP, would tend towards thinking you could, if only because I would expect to have heard the fuss if WMP required IIS.

Embedding the clips in HTML is (again) evil. Object and Embed tags, referencing a plugin, like for flash. It may be better just to use <a href, which for all three will pop up a stand-alone player. May be better usability too.

[1] Well, Apache Tomcat that is...
From: x_mass
Date: June 24th, 2003 - 06:41 am (Link)
2B honest I tend to recieve as QT or WMP
but if I want something big I look for an DivX/AVI/Mpeg4
DL it and whack it on my HD
Does anybody do anything with Mbone anymore?

googled it and found this
http://macinfo.its.queensu.ca/MBONE/
http://open4all.info/ - this looks intresting

are you particularly worried about copyright enforcement?
if you are one of the proprietry standards are likely to be better
Having said that it only slows down the rippers a bit

comercial links off google
http://www.clipstream.com/
http://www.seriousmagic.com/proverview.cfm
http://www.audiovideoweb.com/

hope this helps
From: olithered
Date: July 7th, 2003 - 05:23 am (Link)
This may be worth a look:
https://www.helixcommunity.org