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And that's why you need a paper trail... Oct. 13th, 2003 02:27 pm
Illegal changes made to US voting computers?
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,60563,00.html

(Not posted to globaldefence as this story is intranational).

Thank you for reminding me...

From: swiftangel
Date: October 13th, 2003 - 06:37 am (Link)
That I need to go change my voter registration to absentee so they will send my ballots to the UK when I move. I *refuse* to give up my right to kick the chimp out of office.
From: countess_sophia
Date: October 13th, 2003 - 08:01 am (Link)
Cynical people might think that the lack of a paper trail was deliberate, especially in a nation with a long history of interesting electoral practices. If I was an American I would be very worried about attempts to introduce these machines.

Soph xxx
From: wechsler
Date: October 13th, 2003 - 08:06 am (Link)
Cynical people might think that the lack of a paper trail was deliberate

I'm still trying to find someone who thinks it isn't
From: deliberateblank
Date: October 13th, 2003 - 08:11 am (Link)
They might also point to the repeated allegations (on RISKS amonst other places) about *very* close ties between prominent Republicans and the boards of the leading voting machine companies.
From: thekumquat
Date: October 13th, 2003 - 08:28 am (Link)
If I was an American I would be very worried about attempts to introduce these machines.

It's a bit late for that - I think about half of US elections are done using these or similar machines.

I really ought to get my act together to vote in the US. I was kicking myself at the last presidential election, but it would have never occurred to me to vote in Florida, and they didn't count most of the overseas votes anyway. And I'm not calling a premium rate phone line to talk to the American Embassy. Might just have to take a day off to go down there and cause grief. :)

From: softfruit
Date: October 13th, 2003 - 09:51 am (Link)
I had a terrible "I'm too far into the bubble" moment a week or so ago when I realised that not everyone else knew about this already when it came up in conversation with mattp. Between that and the second-past-the-post electoral system, I worry about using the word "democracy" as an adjective when talking about the US )o:=

Speaking of dubious elections, have you seen stolenvotes.org.uk?
From: wechsler
Date: October 13th, 2003 - 10:55 am (Link)
I've been aware of Diebold issues for a while, this was just the clearest story yet.

And I still can't get into the bloody LibDems.
From: flewellyn
Date: October 13th, 2003 - 01:09 pm (Link)
This is probably why my home state of Minnesota does NOT use voting machines. We just check boxes on a piece of paper and put that paper into a big box, which is guarded. No hanging chads, no silly problems with levers, and certainly very few chances to be confused by the ballot. It's easier to read than one of those old "fill in the bubble" tests. We don't have recounts or allegations of fraud in our elections up here, either. Perhaps the rest of the US should take an example from us? (Well, except for North Dakota, since they do the same thing already.)
From: valkyriekaren
Date: October 13th, 2003 - 11:55 pm (Link)
That's the way it's done all over the UK. There's one company that has the contract for supplying all the voting stationery, from the pencils-on-strings right through to the big metal ballot boxes. I think the contract is renewable annually, too, so if there were any problems/screwups, they might not get it the next year.