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Because trustworthiness is so passé Oct. 14th, 2003 12:10 pm
Ok, so I didn't do the crush meme because I don't tend to have crushes. But I'm disturbed at the number of people going "You trusted someone and they betrayed you, haha you fool".

Yes, I know there are issues about trusting people online, which is why I make it bloody obvious when I ask people for critical data. But to claim some sort of moral high ground by selling people's secrets without their consent is just downright hypocrisy. Even if they didn't specifically undertake to keep that data private, it was accepted as a "secret', and should be treated as such.

Trust is not a crime. Taking advantage of that trust (even if misplaced) to hurt someone, is.

Now, I accept that I'm probably cynical and idealist in a fairly odd mixture, but that cynicism means I'm wary, not that I think I or others have a right to hurt people. I'm cynical enough to know that my ideals are things that have to be defended and fought for, which I suppose makes for a stronger alloy. But when someone trusts me, I'll live up to that trust, and I still hope that that's the default attitude most people would take.

From: djm4
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 04:26 am (Link)
Right with you there.
From: djm4
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 04:27 am (Link)
(well, I'm not sure I agree about 'crime', but that may just be definition).
From: wechsler
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 04:30 am (Link)
Best word I could come up with at the time, I suspect there's a better one.
From: dennyd
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 04:52 am (Link)
Sin? *runs and hides*

"Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily." --Heinlein
From: feanelwa
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 09:15 am (Link)
"They like it" counts as necessary, right?
Just checking :)
From: purplerabbits
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 04:27 am (Link)
Are there a lot of people saying that? I haven't seen it. And I do agree with you.
From: azekeil
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 04:42 am (Link)
Trust is a very subjective thing. I rarely trust ANYTHING on the internet - in the case of that meme I didn't actually do it, but if I had done I wouldn't necessarily really expect my results to be kept secret. However, it it was a quiz that YOU had written, I would, simply because of what I know of you through your journal.

In fact, I have lent someone I only know through livejournal a considerable sum of money - all because I had the money and felt that it would be a Good Thing™ to do, and because I felt I knew them well enough through their journal to trust them. I expected to get the money back and I was not disappointed. Perhaps an unusual experience but one I thought you might appreciate hearing of.

In all honesty I feel everyone makes a leap of faith when coming to trust something like LiveJournal. At the end of the day you have to weigh up how much you think you trust the party involved and how precious what you're planning to entrust them with is, along with damage limitation plans and so forth. Horribly complicated, but better than trust given in ignorance IMHO.
(no subject) - (Anonymous)
From: giolla
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 06:58 am (Link)
Which is odd /* assuming the data wouldn't be kept */, because for the first meme to have worked they would have have to have kept a reasonable amount of data, especially if you include access logs. So if you're going to keep that much why not keep all of it.

I'd love to know if they planned to do this, or just got asked lots, or having been stung by server charges had enough e-mails to think "hey I could make back some of my costs".
(no subject) - (Anonymous)
From: deliberateblank
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 06:12 am (Link)
"Or pay $10 and I'll tell you whether or not they were disappointed when they found out who it was."
From: mankylarry
Date: October 14th, 2003 - 07:18 am (Link)
I guess in the case in point, the only trust that really counts where this meme is concerned, is the the trust on one's own vanity : )