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DVD+-*/go=rwx? Nov. 24th, 2003 07:36 pm
It's multi-PC rebuild time...

I want to buy a DVD recorder as a backup device; but I can't make head or tail of the standards. Can anyone explain these or tell me which I should buy?

Also I need a Win98SE install disk... anyone got one they don't need any more, or suggest somewhere I could get a legit 2nd-hand copy for something more reasonable than the 140quid MS want... Ebay?

Finally I need a new IDE HDD - any recommendations / models to avoid?

And finallier, I have one or two (amazing what you can lose in a study) AT PC cases and a (slightly dim) 15(?)" monitor free to anyone who'll drag them away - any takers?

From: hypermallard
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 12:01 pm (Link)
I want to buy a DVD recorder as a backup device; but I can't make head or tail of the standards. Can anyone explain these or tell me which I should buy?

From the little knowledge I have, the current standards for writing are "DVD minus R" (DVD-R) and "DVD plus R" (DVD+R). The media for each is different, but once written should be compatible with any DVD-ROM drive. The Sony combo drive (does CD-RW, DVD-R and DVD+R) we have at work is pretty flaky. We have a Pioneer which only does one type of writing (I'll check tomorrow which one) that has been solid AFAIK.

Also I need a Win98SE install disk... anyone got one they don't need any more, or suggest somewhere I could get a legit 2nd-hand copy for something more reasonable than the 140quid MS want... Ebay?

We have to have a valid licence for each machine we ship - if we have plenty in stock (it's hard getting them in quantity these days) I may be able to sell you one. I'll get back to you on that.

Finally I need a new IDE HDD - any recommendations / models to avoid?

We generally use Seagate on the stuff we ship (usually 20Gb and 80Gb) without many failures.

And finallier, I have one or two (amazing what you can lose in a study) AT PC cases and a (slightly dim) 15(?)" monitor free to anyone who'll drag them away - any takers?

Now if it was an ATX case you had spare...
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From: azekeil
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 03:41 pm (Link)
You throw them away? *raises eyebrow*
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From: azekeil
Date: November 25th, 2003 - 03:05 am (Link)
You don't return them for a (free minus shipping one way) replacement?
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From: azekeil
Date: November 25th, 2003 - 03:21 am (Link)
Oh geeze... um, go and look on the website of whichever manufacturer the HDD is from. 9/10 they will have a tool for you to download and test the HDD thoroughly and provide a defect code. You type that into their RMA system to authorise a return. Sometimes you can use a credit card to authorise an advance replacement, so you get the new HDD before shipping off the old one (but return the old one within usually 30 days or they deduct the cost of a new HDD from your card). Then simply ship the HDD back, cost of usually ~£10, and wait approx two weeks for a replacement to be delivered.

..

Don't tell me you've just been throwing them away..??? You can do this with most hardware - it's always worth checking...
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From: azekeil
Date: November 25th, 2003 - 03:29 am (Link)
Seagate are good, yes. And the Barracuda's are quiet. Although they can draw a good amount of current on the 5v line, which can strain/cause the power supply to hum, depending what else is in your system.

I use them for all my quiet PC projects.
From: valkyriekaren
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 12:10 pm (Link)
from a quick look on Ebay (I searched for "Windows 98"), dodgy knockoffs (without licenses, manual etc) go for about a fiver. For a full set, still sealed, you're likely to be looking at £40-50.
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Re: 15" monitor

From: wechsler
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 01:53 pm (Link)
Sure thing.
From: dennyd
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 01:58 pm (Link)
Win98 - is there such a thing as a legit second-hand copy of this? I thought all MS licenses were non-transferrable.

Disks - don't buy IBM. I've heard Western Digital aren't so hot any more either. My friends are currently saying Maxtor are fairly good. I've just gone for a 120GB Seagate, from ebuyer.co.uk. Any other brands are commonly held to be not worth remembering the names of, afaik.
From: wechsler
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 02:04 pm (Link)
AFAIK, if I've got the CD, licence key, and (ideally) COA/hologram thing, MS can go fuck 'emselves.

I'm sure I've got a copy of it somewhere, in fact...
From: dennyd
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 03:28 pm (Link)
So you're looking for 'morally legit', rather than absolutely (legally) legit? Given our occasionally wildly disparate views on what classes as morally acceptable, I think I'll leave that one there ;)

Mind you, I don't think I've got any dodgy copies of Windows myself any more, given that I've not run it at home for over 4 years now...
From: azekeil
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 03:44 pm (Link)
Maxtor are actually not that great at all. I've had to return nearly all my drives (luckily within the warrantee period). In actuality that might be something to check. Most HDD manufacturers changed from 3 year to 1 year recently - some of the high performance (usually 8MB cache models) still have 3 year warrantees...
From: jimmaeus
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 02:10 pm (Link)
Hi. Long-time no see etc, so I suppose this constitutes a delurk.

1. The above comments re DVD are spot on IMO, but arguable the most capable drive, certainly the best made, and with fab software, is the Plextor - it will be going flat out when all others are worn out. It costs, but then so anything decent.

2. IBM had a disaster with bearings - allegedly all sorted out, but they are now owned by Hitachi. For quality, not great value I still rate WD, but the cheap newcomer(ish), Samsung looks good if you can find them. Avoid Fujitsu and Maxtor - they still break...

3. I will merrily send you an unreg W98SE CD, plus FD, plus license if you send me an SAE and a nice Yule card ;-)

If interested we can sort out details

Jimmaeus
From: wechsler
Date: November 25th, 2003 - 02:05 am (Link)
Ello :)

Looks like I might have a CD, but will happily send cards anyway - mail your addy to the address on my userinfo
From: conflux
Date: November 24th, 2003 - 05:54 pm (Link)
I can give you a Win98se install disk if you would like it?

Maxtor and Fujitsu were the best disk drives of the IDE type when my last job were doing testing for industrial applications. Not sure about the new serial ones. If you can afford SCSI they are much more reliable.
From: wechsler
Date: November 25th, 2003 - 02:02 am (Link)
OK - when could I get hold of that CD then?
From: conflux
Date: November 25th, 2003 - 04:30 am (Link)
Well I may be at the pub on Friday otherwise I could give it to David M on Thursday if you are likely to see him soon? If all else fails then I could post it.
From: wechsler
Date: November 26th, 2003 - 07:04 am (Link)
Pub would be ideal, or David could probably get it to Laura's fairly easily...