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Anti-fascist campaign aims to halt BNP Feb. 3rd, 2004 03:31 pm
Unite Against Fascism, a major national campaign aiming to alert voters to the "rising threat" of the far right, particularly the British National party, was launched today.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/farright/story/0,11981,1138284,00.html

From: valkyriekaren
Date: February 3rd, 2004 - 03:39 pm (Link)
Good. Anything that encourages people to get out there and vote is a good thing; pissing off the BNP along the way is just a bonus.

Not necessarily

From: softfruit
Date: February 3rd, 2004 - 11:46 pm (Link)
May I play the Weimar Republic card in this debate? United fronts against fascism don't work. They're a nice sounding plan, all good folk together against the baddies, etc. What they are really about is assimilating as many people as possible inside the broad (in this country, Labour) tent, and hoping that this will outnumber the opposition. Sooner or later this fails as the voters become disenchanted with any ruling group over time. And then, if all good folk are tarred with the same brush, that only leaves not-good folk to be elected in their place.

Vigorous competition between more mainstream parties is the only long term solution. In too many places the incumbent party has been in power forever, and there is no perceived alternative. Hence in places like Burnley which have been Labour since the year dot, where the Lib Dems, Tories and Greens failed to put up a serious fight, the BNP get in.

Whereas when the other parties rise to the challenge (eg in recent months Burnley Lanehead or Ellesmere Port & Neston Central) the BNP get utterly quashed. Not because the other parties are taking on the BNP, but because they are taking on one another, and the BNP's "they're all the same" card ceases to appeal to an electorate who see competing serious parties after their vote.

Even if you disagree with the above, remember that the only party to have taken a seat off the BNP in the last few years is the Lib Dems ;o)

Re: Not necessarily

From: djm4
Date: February 4th, 2004 - 11:17 am (Link)
May I play the Weimar Republic card in this debate? United fronts against fascism don't work.

Overgeneralising, much? United fronts against fascism can work just fine if they stick to their remit and don't try to unite a lot of other disparate viewpoints for the sake of some false unity. It's not at all clear from the article what Uncle Ken is proposing, but you seem to be suggesting that cross-party opposition to racism and fascism is conterproductive, which I strongly disagree with.

Even if you disagree with the above, remember that the only party to have taken a seat off the BNP in the last few years is the Lib Dems ;o)

Yes, but I also remember Tower Hamlets in 1993. Lib Dems don't occupy any sort of moral high ground here, although the Tower Hamlets Lib Dems were (rightly) in disgrace in the party after that fiasco, and thankfully it was for being racist fuckers rather than for losing council seats.
From: sashajwolf
Date: February 4th, 2004 - 04:58 pm (Link)
The UAF website is very light on any kind of explanation of who is behind the organisation (as distinct from who the signatories are) and how exactly they intend to achieve their objectives.