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Knew I should have just worn a badge Sep. 17th, 2004 01:59 pm
It's friday afternoon, we've all just been to wagamamas, and nobody gives a flying fuck about work ;)

Also came out to one cow-orker - in the "Haven't you worked out I'm queer yet?" way.
No, he hadn't. Gormer ;)

His reaction was that amusing one where they say "Erm, yeah, well that's ok" and look slightly puzzled as if there's something else they should say - usually "well I don't have a problem with that", as if they think they should, or would be expected to.
People often think this sort of thing should be a big deal, and then suddenly find themselves filing it as "one more fact" about someone. It's so anticlimactic ;)

However the no-pressure atmosphere that now pervades herein is ideal for low-speed CSS wrangling, so I'll be doing some of that.

From: the_g_man
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 01:24 pm (Link)
I had this discussion a while back with a friend: what is the correct etiquette when an acquaintance announces that they're as bent as a nine-bob note? It got very silly very quickly and we settled upon "'Zoots!" as being the correct exclamation.

We even thought we might go into the greeting cards industry with coming-out "'Zoots!" cards.

Then I think we sobered up.
From: valkyriekaren
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 01:59 pm (Link)
Heh. We had work lunch too. Nothing doing here now.
From: valkyriekaren
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 02:19 pm (Link)
On Monday you should go in with your 'Sex Slave' badge pinned to your jacket.
From: wechsler
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 02:22 pm (Link)
Or not, as the case may be ;)

Whose badge is that, anyway? Didn't think it was mine.
From: valkyriekaren
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 02:25 pm (Link)
I thought it was yours? It certainly isn't mine.
From: katishna
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 03:46 pm (Link)
Does 'queer' cover everything that's not straight, vanilla interests now? I think I missed the changeover :(
From: valkyriekaren
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 03:56 pm (Link)
In this context it means 'bisexual'. I think it's fine for bisexual people to call themselves queer.
From: katishna
Date: September 18th, 2004 - 03:13 am (Link)
yay! me too.

(i guess i did sound a bit put off didn't I? didn't mean to.)

Too many hours of sitting at this damn desk still to come

From: webcowgirl
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 07:12 pm (Link)
Queer is very clearly meant as same-sex only in the US, despite the phrase "queer as a three dollar bill" meaning "completely strange."

I think bent is better.

And unless you are interested in someone or they are interested in you, in the work environment I think it's generally better to just not think about people's sexual preferences at all, so I'm guessing your confused coworker had just put no mental effort toward the issue whatsoever, and thus had no response.

Hoping you're having a fabulous Friday evening ...

Re: Too many hours of sitting at this damn desk still to come

From: wechsler
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 07:24 pm (Link)
Ah right. "Queer" commonly means "non-straight" on this side of the pond, and is widely used in the Bi community. It possibly has some kink connotations, but they're very much secondary.

Very few people here would call themselves bent - I cetainly wouldn't; it's got very negative overtones.

It seems there are far more words with different meanings than are commonly realised. Mind you, some of them only come up in particular conversations ;)
Should I ever get back over to the US, the knowledge could be useful.

I find it vaguely useful to know gender-orientation in colleagues, if only to provide context for remarks. I'm not going to date cow-orkers whatever their preference ;)

And, well, it's friday... end of the week but we're taking it easy at home. Not really feeling my best right now.

Obviously more American than I thought.

From: thalinoviel
Date: September 18th, 2004 - 10:06 am (Link)
I translated queer=gay=strictly homosexual and was about to say "Oh, somehow I was convinced you were bi."

Somehow my sexuality has almost never come up in converstion at work.

(It did once, my supervisor asked me if I'd ever had an affair with a woman, I said I was actually on a hot date with one that very evening, she was briefly startled into something resembling conciousness before returning to dwell on the chap who wasn't phoning her. I'm still not sure why she wasn't phoning him.)

From: achanchinou
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 07:40 pm (Link)
Have you ever had a non-anti-climatic coming out? Like, seriously, have you ever came out to someone only to be immediately asked out or anything like that?

Coming out is always so boring in my experience.
From: wechsler
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 07:47 pm (Link)
Not yet, but there's always hope ;)
From: achanchinou
Date: September 17th, 2004 - 07:54 pm (Link)
If it ever happens, I expect a blow-by-blow telling of it! :)

(that pun really wasn't intended....)
From: flewellyn
Date: September 18th, 2004 - 12:41 am (Link)
I found an amusing way to handle this back in college.

Me, to girl and guy: "Are you two dating, then?"
Girl: "Um, nope."
Guy: "I'm gay, didn't you know?"
Me: "Oh, no, I did not. Let's see...57."
Guy: "57?"
Me: "57 new gay guys I've met on campus this year. 'No homosexual population' my ass!"

I was referring here to the administration's official position that the school had no homosexual population (it's a Lutheran school, see).