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Shame; it was a nice planet Nov. 3rd, 2004 08:53 am
Oh.
Fuck.

Short of a comet strike (and Bush is God's buddy, remember) it looks like another 4 years of the thief-in-chief. If this really is the case it's down to those of us in other nations to direct our own governments in a path that can mitigate this damage.

This means, in the UK, bringing in a government that will not act like the 51st state, but one that will fully engage in Europe in order to make that continent a genuine superpower; one that has sufficient military might, commercial power and internal cohesion not to directly combat the US, but to be able to direct and execute its own agenda irrespective of US action.

This will mean some major changes in both the UK government (ie, greater support for our one integrationist party) and in the operations of the EU (ie, greater power of the EU parliament over the Commission and Council, removal of vetos) and a bit of bloody political maturity. I'm of the firm belief that this requires proportional representation in both national and supranational elections, as this leads to more rational political discussion and a greater feeling of enfranchisement that first-past-the-post (or, for that matter, the utterly absurd two-tier first-past-the-post that we're watching with dismay in the US.)

The baton has been dropped; if we don't pick it up we cannot be satisfied to blame others for the path the world takes.

(no subject) - (Anonymous)

Re: First Past The Post

From: wechsler
Date: November 3rd, 2004 - 09:31 am (Link)
PR has no benefits for an election in which there is only one post up for grabs, so there's some validity in what you say, however the abolition of the tiered system would still have the benefit of people not thinking "but my state always goes way X". Turnout appears to be high this year (it looks more like the first open South African elections that something you'd expect in the "home of democracy", fuck knows what they were playing at), but could have been higher, and the reduction of herd voting could have had other effects.

Re: First Past The Post

From: ciphergoth
Date: November 3rd, 2004 - 11:04 am (Link)
We don't know who would win if the President were directly elected by simple plurality (FPTP), rather than having an electoral college. Turnout could be completely different in "safe" states if their vote actually counted for something.

It's also interesting to speculate who would win if a fairer voting system than FPTP were used.