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Propogation: anti-ID petition Oct. 20th, 2005 12:06 pm
http://www.libdems.org.uk/noidcards/




Oh and I have to copy this from libdemfeed:

Charles Kennedy at PMQ'S: Prime Minister is becoming increasingly authoritarian
20 October 2005


At Prime Minister’s Questions Charles Kennedy challenged Tony Blair to concede that he was becoming increasingly authoritarian. Mr Kennedy urged the Prime Minister to look at a checklist of the government’s authoritarian measures such as “questioning the principles of innocence until proved guilty, promoting the concept of summary justice, picking fights with the judiciary, and saying that he wants to lock people up for 90 days without charge.†He then added, “Now if that isn’t an authoritarian approach, what is?â€Â

Mr Kennedy also pointed out to the Prime Minister that yesterday’s ID cards bill was voted against by a number of Labour back-benchers, and with such a small majority it was unlikely to be passed by the House of Lords. Mr Kennedy asked “is it now his intention to use the Parliament Act to push through the Identity Cards bill with the House of Lords based on his 35 % mandate from the country in the House of Commons,†in itself an authoritative measure?
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From: kekhmet
Date: October 20th, 2005 - 12:13 pm (Link)
I agree that nationally required ID cards are a bad idea, but I'm getting really annoyed with one thing I've seen claimed more than once on anti-ID sites:
why do things keep trying to say the USA has ID cards?
This is false. The USA has no nationally required form of ID whatsoever. States issue driving licences which are photo ID, and these are used as defacto ID cards most places. For those who do not drive, states will issue state ID cards if requested. But there is NO requirement that one gets a photo ID card, though you'll have a rather difficult time of it purchasing alchohol, or trying to go to a bar or any other establishment that wants proof of age without one. Proving identity for employment and the like gets a bit more challenging too. But the fact remains that having a Gov't issued Photo ID is voluntary in the USA!

From: kekhmet
Date: October 20th, 2005 - 12:19 pm (Link)
(p.s. sorry for ranting on your LJ, but it really has been bothering me, and they didn't give a convenient place to give feedback on that page. heh.)
From: wechsler
Date: October 20th, 2005 - 12:29 pm (Link)
No problem - I'm trying to find out who to contact to get that corrected, as it happens.
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From: wechsler
Date: October 20th, 2005 - 01:40 pm (Link)
Unfortunately he's left in the offending sentence instead of replacing it - I've replied to his mail, and hopefully it'll be second time lucky